Fighting Words

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“Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?’”
― Matthew 16:24―26

Language has been disarmed. Fighting words are words which “by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.” Pro-lifers commonly dismiss the chain of causation, because they believe that never will death occur. As a result, the cause of someone’s death—not life—will be the prejudiced proximity or influenced intervention of someone else.

Peacemakers[edit]

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” ― Matthew 7:1-2

As a precautionary measure, ensues a list of individuals who were gravitated toward depressed people. The convicted individuals deliberately aided, advised, or encouraged suicide with text messages. Please be vigilant.

William Francis Melchert-Dinkel (2011)

Michelle Carter (2014)

Philipp Budeikin (Blue Whale Challenge) (2016)

Ilya Sidorov (Blue Whale Challenge) (2017)

Brandon Grossheim (2016-2017) - Read more: [1][2] (Note: only lawsuit allegations - no text messages)

Natasha Gordon (2017) - Read more: [3][4]

A 17-year-old girl (Blue Whale Challenge) (2017)

Nikita Nearonov (Blue Whale Challenge) (2018)

Inyoung You (2019) - Read more: [5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13] (Note: only lawsuit allegations)

Fighting words usage[edit]

“For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” ― Mark 10:45

To offset any possible harms or breach of the peace, this section represents two peacemakers who used controversial speech to handle the tension and comfort their boyfriends.

Insights of Michelle Carter[edit]

“‘He himself bore our sins’ in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; ‘by his wounds you have been healed.’” ― 1 Peter 2:24

Michelle Carter was a young woman who’s had the negative limelight shone on her. As outlined in court documents, here are some of the messages that Carter sent to her boy friend, Conrad Roy III. Roy used a generator to produce carbon monoxide in his truck to peacefully pass away. Because nobody had any control over Roy anymore, the society was full of hate. After all, everybody hated that Roy had left them, so someone who was still alive had to be taken responsible for someone else’s actions. Being disgusted at Roy’s choice, the morally-delusional society spitefully pressured for conviction of Michelle Carter so that everybody could feel some supremacy over each other. If Carter had caused Roy’s death, Roy would be alive were it not for Carter. Given that there are myriad of ways to die, there’s no way to know Roy would be alive—unless we assume Carter was intrinsically guilty. Actually, were it not for the comfort of Carter, Roy might have died sooner or hurt others. Moreover, Carter used words that everyone is using. There’s no proof that hers was the lethal ones. Her illegal words made legal the knowledge of a novel method: using portable generator to produce carbon monoxide. In the absence of statutory direction, Carter was convicted based on the subjective ingeniousness of the act as opposed to established legal standards.

The U.S. Supreme Court denied a request from lawyers for Michelle Carter to have the court review her conviction stemming from using deputable words. On 13 January 2020, Carter’s case was among several on the court’s website listed under the heading “Certiorari Denied,” because the U.S. Supreme Court knew the only way to win was not to review it. Soon after, she was released from prison on 23 January 2020 for “good behavior.” Carter was a model inmate.

In January 2021, a bill filed at the Massachusetts Statehouse that would set a maximum sentence of five years in prison for anyone who “intentionally coerces or encourages” another individual to die by suicide or attempt to die by suicide by using physical acts or mental coercion that manipulate a person’s “fears, affections or sympathies.” The legislation, however, does not apply to mental health professionals who lose their paitents to suicide. One provision applies to a person, such as a mentallist, who exercises “substantial control” or “undue influence” where “the will of one person is substituted for the wishes of another.” Its focus is on a person’s mindset (i.e., mind reading).

You can read a transcription of all the messages between the teens on the day Conrad Roy committed suicide here, as well as all the messages presented as evidence here[1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9]. In the following transcript, the --- indicates a pause between conversations.

8 July 2014

Carter: So are you sure you don't wanna [kill yourself] tonight?

Roy: What do you mean am I sure?

Carter: Like, are you definitely not doing it tonight?

Roy: Idk yet I'll let you know

Carter: Because I'll stay up with you if you wanna do it tonight

Roy: Another day wouldn't hurt

Carter: You can't keep pushing it off, tho, that's all you keep doing

4–12 July 2014

Carter: You're gonna have to prove me wrong because I just don't think you really want this. You just keeps pushing it off to another night and say you'll do it but you never do

---

Carter: SEE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. YOU KEEP PUSHING IT OFF! You just said you were gonna do it tonight and now you're saying eventually....

---

Carter: But I bet you're gonna be like "oh, it didn't work because I didn't tape the tube right or something like that" ... I bet you're gonna say an excuse like that

---

Carter: Do you have the generator?

Roy: not yet lol

Carter: WELL WHEN ARE YOU GETTING IT

---

Carter: You better not be bull sh*ting me and saying you're gonna do this and then purposely get caught

11–12 July 2014

Roy: I'm just to sensitive. I want my family to know there was nothing they could do. I am entrapped in my own thoughts

Roy: like no I would be happy if they had no guilt about it. because I have a bad feeling tht this is going to create a lot of depression between my parents/sisters

Roy: i'm overthinking everything. . f**k. I gotta stop and just do it

Carter: I think your parents know you're in a really bad place. I'm not saying they want you to do it, but I honestly feel like they can accept it. They know there's nothing they can do, they've tried helping, everyone's tried. But there's a point that comes where there isn't anything anyone can do to save you, not even yourself, and you've hit that point and I think your parents know you've hit that point. You said you're mom saw a suicide thing on your computer and she didn't say anything. I think she knows it's on your mind and she's prepared for it.

Carter: Everyone will be sad for a while, but they will get over it and move on. They won't be in depression I won't let that happen. They know how sad you are and they know that you're doing this to be happy, and I think they will understand and accept it. They'll always carry u in their hearts

Roy: Aww. Thank you, Michelle.

Carter: They will move on for you because they know that’s what you would have wanted. They know you wouldn’t want them to be sad and depressed and be angry and guilty. They know you want them to live their lives and be happy. So they will for you. You’re right. You need to stop thinking about this and just do it because over turning always kills, over thinking.

Roy: Yeah, it does. I’ve been thinking about it for too long.

Carter: Always smile, and, yeah, you just have to do it. You have everything you need. There is no way you can fail. Tonight is the night. It’s now or never.

---

Roy: i don't want anyone hurt in the process though

Roy: I meant when they open the door, all the carbon monoxide is gonna come out they can't see it or smell it. whoever opens the door

Carter: They will see the generator and know that you died of CO. . . .

---

Roy: hey can you do me a favor

Carter: Yes of course

Roy: just be there for my family :)

Carter: Conrad, of course I will be there for your family. I will help them as much as I can to get thru this, ill tell them about how amazing their son/brother truly was

---

Roy: Idk I'm freaking out again

Roy: I'm overthinking

Carter: I thought you wanted to do this. The time is right and you're ready, you just need to do it! You can't keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did last time and not think about it and just do it babe. You can't keep doing this every day

Roy: I do want to. but like I'm freaking for my family. I guess

Roy: idkkk

Carter: Conrad. I told you I'll take care of them. Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won't be alone and people will help them get thru it. We talked about this, they will be okay and accept it. People who commit suicide don't think this much and they just do it

12 July 2014

Carter: So I guess you aren't gonna do it then, all that for nothing

Carter: I'm just confused like you were so ready and determined

Roy: I am gonna eventually

Roy: I really don't know what I'm waiting for. . but I have everything lined up

Carter: No, you're not, Conrad. Last night was it. You keep pushing it off and you say you'll do it but u never do. Its always gonna be that way if u don't take action

Carter: You're just making it harder on yourself by pushing it off, you just have to do it

Carter: Do u wanna do it now?

Roy: Is it too late?

Roy: Idkk it's already light outside

Roy: I'm gonna go back to sleep, love you I'll text you tomorrow

Carter: No? Its probably the best time now because everyone's sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck. And no one's really out right now because it's an awkward time

Carter: If u don't do it now you're never gonna do it

Carter: And u can say you'll do it tomorrow but you probably won't

---

Carter: You just need to do it Conrad or I'm gonna get you help

Carter: You can't keep doing this everyday

Roy: Okay I'm gonna do it today

Carter: Do you promise

Roy: I promise babe

Roy: I have to now

Carter: Like right now?

Roy: where do I go? :(

Carter: And u can't break a promise. And just go in a quiet parking lot or something.

[Carter was scared of witnessing suicide for the first time. She later texted a friend to calm herself down.]

Carter: His death is my fault. He got out of the car because [it] was working and he got scared and I f[—]en told him to get back in.

Roy died; Carter lived. Carter was shocked and confused, because that was the first time she saw the death of someone who was so close to her. Carter was inexperienced in the battle of depression and the continuous persuasion of peace.

Twaddles of Inyoung You[edit]

“as water wears away stones and torrents wash away the soil, so You destroy a man’s hope.” ― Job 14:19

Inyoung You, a 21-year-old former Boston College student, was increasingly physically, verbally, and psychologically abusive to her boyfriend, Alexander Urtula, over their year-and-a-half-long relationship. Their relationship ramped up over the two months before his suicide on 20 May—the day he would have graduated from BC. Prosecutors argue that You ruthlessly abused Urtula through the text messages, making him feel trapped. The defense says this is a false narrative.

It is with deep regret that You’s profanities in her text messages are included.

You: Do everyone a favor and go f------ kill yourself. You’re such a f------ stupid ass, worthless s---. Dude just f------ do everyone a favor and go f------ kill yourself honestly. f------ worthless ass, f------ piece of s---. You deserve nothing in the f------ world.

You f------ piece of s---. Go f------ die in hell. You deserve to go kill yourself. There's a main ceremony with all of you and you lie and say you won't see them at all? Can you go f------ kill yourself and leave me the f--- alone. And if you don't die, I'm going to f------ kill myself.

I want to bash your head against the wall. Can you go f------ hit your head on the f------ sink repeatedly? You are literally a piece of s---. You should go f------ die, or else I'm going to go slit my wrists again. How f------ idiotic you are like, baffles me.

11 April 2019

Urtula: Inyoung please I’ll give you whatever you want … I’ll leave this (expletive) earth just please don’t do anything don’t hurt yourself anymore … so please I’ll get out of your life I’ll go die like you want … I’ll erase myself from this world. I don't have anything anymore if I don't have you.

15 April 2019, 9:29 p.m.

You: … I LITERALLY (expletive) POINTED IT OUT OH MY GOD YOU LITERALLY I WANT TO BASH YOUR (expletive) HEAD AGAINST THE WALL CAN YOU GO (expletive) HIT YOUR (expletive) HEAD ON THE SINK REPEATEDLY …

29 April 2019

You: ABUSE U THINK I ABUSE YOU U WANNA SAY I ABUSE U…UR THAT (expletive) IDIOTIC AND STUPID …

18 May 2019

You: … did I NOT (expletive) TELL YOU TO READ (my text) NOW IF YOU DO NOT (expletive) READ IT RIGHT NOW I’M LITERALLY GOING TO (expletive) SLASH MY THROAT AND TAKE A VIDEO OF IT SAYING IT WAS BECAUSE OF YOU AND THAT I WANT YOU TO SEE IT …

20 May 2019

You: Where the [expletive] are you?

You: “who’d u run into or talk to? Whose room did u go to? Hello.”

Urtula: I’m not talking to anyone. I won’t ever again. I’m happy I got to spend my last night with you. I love you inyoung until my last breath.

You: Then WHERE ARE YOU

You: I ASKED U WHY UR LOCATION WASN’T AVAILABLE. ARE U KIDDING ME.

Urtula: I’m not gonna be anywhere inyoung this is goodbye forever. I love you. This isn’t your fault it’s mine.

You: What. What. UR LEAVING ME.

Urtula: I’m far away on a tall place and I’m not gonna be here for long. I’m leaving everyone.

You: ALEX. WHAT SRE YOU F------ DOING. IF U F------ LOVE ME STOP. IF U EVER F------ LOVED ME STOP.

You: Don’t leave me like that if u ever loved me stop. If u wanna show me you love me stop.

Urtula: I did love you just not well enough. Good bye.

You: STOP.

Urtula: You’ll have everything once I’m gone.

You: PLWASE STOp. Talk to me. STOP. STOP. PLESEE. IM CRYING PLEASE. PICK UP. PLEASE . . . DON’T LEAVE ME LIKE THAT. IF U EVER LOVED ME STOP. IF YOU WANNA SHOW ME U LOVE ME STOP . . . please pick up . . . talk to me please.

You: please [repeated more than 100 times]